Shaik Boasted of 'Political Connectivity' : Sono |
Publication | Sapa |
Issued |
Durban |
Date | 2004-10-14 |
Reporter |
Wendy Jasson Da Costa, Ben Maclennan |
Corruption accused Schabir Shaik repeatedly boasted of his "political connectivity" with Deputy President Jacob Zuma in discussions with potential business partners, the Durban High Court was told on Thursday.
Shaik's former business associate professor Themba Sono also said Shaik would keep his "nice big cellphone" switched on during these business meetings, saying he was expecting important calls from Zuma.
Sono is the first person on the State's list of more than 100 witnesses to be called in Shaik's trial on charges of corruption and fraud.
Sono, who is currently the deputy president of Patricia De Lille's Independent Democrats, said that in early 1996 he accepted a position as an executive director of Shaik's Nkobi Holdings, a position which he took on full time from October that year.
Shaik had explained that he wanted to strategically place Nkobi for a variety of contracts "particularly in the government arena".
These would range from tollgates and road construction to housing, information technology and especially the electronic component of the corvette programme.
Sono told the court that Nkobi, however, had cash problems and that when Christmas salary cheques for company employees bounced at the end of the year, he loaned Shaik R75 000 from his savings to cover the amounts.
Asked by lead prosecutor Billy Downer what resources Nkobi did have, he said "it had nothing really".
It became a source of heated debate at a meeting with arms manufacturer Denel, which was to go into a joint venture for new plastic card bar-coded driver's licences with Nkobi and French arms manufacturer Thomson.
"Denel was questioning why Nkobi should not pay when Denel and Thomson were paying. Yes, we didn't have any money."
However Shaik was "brilliant" in responding.
"He says we are bringing a lot of goodwill here, we are an empowerment company. This is the new South Africa. If we are going to open doors you must regard our goodwill in monetary value," said Sono.
Shaik had repeatedly boasted of Nkobi's "political connectivity" in government.
"There are names that always cropped up. Two of the names that always cropped up were Jacob Zuma and Mac Maharaj."
Asked by Downer over what period Zuma's name was mentioned he said this was right from when he joined the group.
"He asked me, 'you know President (Nelson) Mandela is to retire soon, and Deputy President (Thabo) Mbeki would become the president and minister Zuma would be the deputy president'. And he says, 'what do you think if I become a director-general in Deputy President Zuma's place? (office)'." Sono said he told Shaik he was the wrong guy for such a job because he woke up only at 11am and then worked until the small hours of the morning. Asked by Downer what he expected to get out of his relationship with Nkobi Holdings Sono replied "In monetary terms? I did expect initially really to be rich, but it is Mr Schabir Shaik who triggered my interest when he said 'I am going to make you a millionaire'. "I said 'Ja Ja'," Sono said to laughter in the court. Sono is currently a member of the Gauteng legislature for the Independent Democrats. Earlier he told the court that he had had been a political activist on and off from the 1950s and had met Shaik through a meeting arranged by an economics department colleague at the University of Witwatersrand.
Sono holds four degrees.
With acknowledgements to Wendy Jasson Da Costa, Ben Maclennan and Sapa.