Publication: Democratic Alliance Date: 2005-12-19 Reporter: Eddie Trent Reporter: Reporter:

DA: Trent - Arms Deal - President Should Jog His Memory about Thomson-CSF Meeting

 

Statement by Eddie Trent MP
Democratic Alliance Spokesperson on Public Accounts
19 December 2005

 

President should start jogging his memory about Thomson-CSF meeting

President Thabo Mbeki gave a completely unsatisfactory answer to a DA parliamentary question about whether or not he met with representatives of a French arms company implicated in alleged corruption related to the Arms Deal. The DA will send a copy of the president’s reply back to his office with the request that he jogs his mind on the details of the meeting in question.

In my parliamentary question, I asked the President whether or not he had met with representatives of Thomson-CSF in Paris on or about 17 December 1998. His reply was obfuscatory at best, and stated that he, “does not recall such a meeting. However, in the course of his duties … the President has met with and interacted with a large number of business people and representatives of business entities.”

It is inconceivable that any reasonable person should accept the president answer given the facts which have thus far been made public. We have further strong documentary evidence which we believe underpins the fact that the president did in fact meet *1 with Thomson-CSF to discuss a particular matter concerning the awarding of the corvette combat suite contract and related issues such as BEE for the deal.

At the time of the alleged meeting, Mr Mbeki was the deputy president of South Africa and chaired the ministerial committee overseeing the arms procurement package. It is alleged that at this meeting (in Paris) he gave certain assurances to representatives from Thomson-CSF about the corvette combat suite.

The company’s South African subsidiary is currently facing prosecution along with former deputy president Jacob Zuma.

My question to the President was based on two faxes from Thomson-CSF, both of which named him. The first, an encrypted fax, was part of the court record of the trial of Schabir Shaik. It referred to a person called "the Taileur" (tailor in French) which allegedly is a reference to Shaik's brother, Chippy, then chief of acquisitions for the Department of Defence. In one section of the fax, the tailor was quoted as saying Mbeki was very satisfied with the company's bid and that he had obtained Mbeki's assurance that the company would be awarded the contract for a combat system and sensors.

The other fax indicated that Mbeki had met Thomson-CSF executives in France in December 1998. The fax was by Thomson-CSF senior vice-president B de Bollardiere to Mbeki and confirmed they had met.

The President has a slew of aides and diary secretaries in his staff and he should ask that they consult his diary for details of this alleged meeting. A simple “I don’t recall such a meeting” is not good enough.

For Information  :  Eddie Trent  083 600 8949
Media Liaison  :  Martin Slabbert  082 320 1890

With acknowledgement to Eddie Trent and the DA.



*1  On at least two occasions during the relevant period (between 8 May 1998 and 3 December 1999) and probably more often.

*2  No, Le Tailleur is Thomson-CSF's name for Yusuf Surtee who was acting as Thomson-CSF's interlocutor with the President, Mr N.R. Mandela and the Deputy President, Mr T.M. Mbeki.

However, there is reference by Thomson-CSF in this same context to the "reportage" of more than one person, one certainly Yusuf Surtee and the other almost certainly being Chippy Shaikh.

And there's more - enough to make a hagfish *3 (any of the genera: Myxine, Neomyxine, Paramyxine and Eptatretus) quite envious.

*3  See also :
http://dict.rucus.ru.ac.za/dict.cgi?word=hagfish&dict=wn&strategy=default&define=define