SAAF has no Gripen support contract |
Publication |
defenceWeb |
Date | 2013-07-17 |
Reporter | Guy Martin |
Web link | www.defenceweb.co.za |
The South African Air Force (SAAF) has no
support contract with Saab to maintain its fleet
of Gripen fighter jets as previous support
contracts have expired.
Magnus Lewis-Olsson, President of Saab South
Africa, told defenceWeb yesterday at the Land
Forces Africa conference in Pretoria the SAAF
had been living on interim support contracts,
but since April had no support contracts at all.
Lewis-Olsson said Saab was hoping to get a
support contract in place within the next few
months.
He was concerned the SAAF would not be able to
operate the Gripen without some form of support
contract – the Air Force at the moment does
hands on maintenance work, but it is not a good
for the aircraft to fly for extended periods
without proper maintenance and support.
South Africa ordered 28 Saab Gripen C & D
advanced light fighter aircraft in 1999 as part
of a “strategic defence package”. The order was
later trimmed to 26. The Gripen were acquired as
a package with 24 BAE Systems Hawk Mk120 lead-in
fighter trainers. In 2007 Treasury put the cost
of the Gripen acquisition, Project Ukhozi, at
R19.908 billion. By August 2011, the SAAF had
spent R151 million on Gripen support.
In March Defence and Military Veterans Minister
Nosiviwe Mapisa-Nqakula told Parliament 12
Gripens were in long-term storage. This because
the SAAF did not have the necessary funding to
fly them.
As far back as 2010 previous Defence and
Military Veterans Minister Lindiwe Sisulu warned
a lack of money could ground the Gripen. That
year’s Department of Defence annual report also
warned “combined with recent funding cuts for
the medium term expenditure framework period,
the air force will only be able to sustain the
Hawk system”.
“Without adequate funding levels being provided,
the air force will not be able to meet its
mandate in terms of defence or its support of
government initiatives in the medium and longer
term. The unwanted reality is portions of
aircraft fleets may have to be placed in
long-term storage, and certain capabilities,
units or bases may have to be closed down,” the
report stated.
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#1 Flash28 2013-07-17 12:19
Sigh, I really hope Terry, Richard and Paul
manages to get our money back from BAE and SAAB
for the Gripens and Hawks.Simple PV calculation
based on 2007 ZAR/USD rate average = 7.04 to
current Rand price with interest fluctuations
till 2013... the price is closer to +-25-30
billion ZAR... We got royally screwed. I'm sure
we could get some second hand Mirage-2000's from
the French
#2 Dirk 2013-07-17 17:13
Forget about ever getting money back - after ten
or more years. The Defence Force is only the
user of the items given to them by Parliament.
The SANDF got a good acquisition system, and
state what it want, but it is a political
decision on what it get. So get the backhanders
from the politburo, give the SANDF the money to
operate what they got, That is maintenance
support as well as the operational training and
operational budget.
I do not say the SANDF does not have corrupt
members, but the whole Defence Package was
basically a Political Payback to the partners
during the time of the struggle.
#3 Helmoed Heitman 2013-07-17 17:17
Why would anyone want a second-hand Mirage for
which there will never be any home country
upgrade, modernisation, etc. The Gripen was the
optimal
choice if we could not afford a medium
(twin-engine) fighter. Much cheaper to fly than
an F-16 and (I am not entirely certain here, but
fairly so) a Mirage 2000, and with a type life
of thirty years ahead of it. And we paid a lot
less per aircraft than other countries paid for
Mirage 2000s or F16s in the same time frame.
#4 LeonvW 2013-07-17 17:59
I agree 100% with Helmoed. 2nd Hand Mirage
2000's would never have been a comparable
option. The SAAF must get proper funding to
operate (AND maintain/support)the Gripens
effectively. This also includes training
sufficient fighter pilots in future. If there is
no option of releasing the stored ones from
long-term-storage in the next few years, then
perhaps those aircraft should be sold as 2nd
hand - leaving us with a very small yet agile
and well-maintained fighter fleet.
#5 Bateleur 2013-07-17 19:14
It's obvious that the SAAF has a fantastic
fighter in the Gripen.
I have a feeling that the upcoming war against
the Rebels in the DRC will serve as a good
advertisement that the SANDF is effective
despite the funding issues and will hopefully
restore its position of importance and the
required force levels.
The stored Gripens need to be put back into
service ASAP. One squadron isn't good enough to
secure the airspace over SA, never mind Central
Africa.
#6 Jacques de Vries 2013-07-17 19:15
@ Helmoed Heitman
Just for interest sakes, what would new Mirage
2000's have cost if we had purchased them
instead of the Gripen, and were they
contemplated? I ask this as a (unjust "what if")
question in terms of the continuity which the
aviation industry in South Africa could have
enjoyed in terms of staying with relatively
familiar French avionics and engineering systems
the likes of the other Mirage marks already in
long service with the SAAF.
Be that as it may, we now have these Gripen
airframes, and they are not going to go away,
unless as LeonW says we sell them on and
maintain a small fleet. Even if we do that the
ranks of pilots need to be filled, as well as
technicians who need to be incentivized to stay
with the Force to keep the fleet going. These
machines gather dust in hangars and are as good
as museum exhibits if the system does not
support them... It might be so that the Gripen
was an optimal choice among a specific line up,
but it seems that in light of their current
situation , even this optimal situation does not
seem the best.
#7 John 2 2013-07-17 21:49
The only thing SAAF needs is sufficient funds to
fully operate the 24 Gripens (it’s all about the
money SAAF don’t have), the what if 10 years
later is just uncalled for. I have no problem
that my tax money (alhoewel baie min) was spend
on the purchase of the 24 Gripens. Hopefully
with the approval of Defence Review the Defence
Budget will increase.
#8 John 2 2013-07-17 22:04
Sorry 26 Gripens.Quoting John 2:
#9 Mburumba Appolus 2013-07-18 17:48
Can an esteemed reader kindly research how
countries with smaller or equal GDP/defence
budgets as South Africa such as Jordan,Morocco,
Chile, Denmark, Portugal, etc are able to
operate squadrons of F-16, etc with relative
ease.
#10 Helmoed Heitman 2013-07-18 17:54
Jaques,
There were three aircraft offered at the time,
with the final bid prices as below:
- Gripen $ 2 234 million
- Mirage 2000 $ 2 314 million
- AT2000 $ 2 157 million
The latter was a DASA project that had not
progressed beyond the concept design. A lot of
people in the SAAF projects world preferred it,
but the risk was considered to be too high. As
it stands, no one has ordered any and it has
never gone beyond paper, so that decision was
correct.
The problem with the Mirage 2000 was that it was
an old aircraft (entered FAF service in 1982)
and was at that stage scheduled to be phased out
by the FAF in 2012, precisely the year in which
we originally planned to achieve IOC on our new
fighter. That would have meant being the last
client and no more upgrades or new weapons
integration by the OEM and home air force. Add
the fact that it was much more maintenance
intensive and that its few performance
advantages were offset by disadvantages, and it
all became a no-brainer.
Personally I would have preferred Rafale -
range, payload, twin engines for safety over
long missions and, as you say, the connection
with Dassault and the French industry. But that
would have cost just about twice as much to buy
and, being a twin, would have cost a lot more to
run - fuel, hot gas stream engine parts, etc; or
perhaps F/A-18!
Some people claim there was an F-16 offer on the
table and there was - the F-16As that had been
sold to Pakistan, paid for but never delivered
(no refund either) and been standing in a hanger
for twenty years. Just getting them operational
after that would have been costly, the
Pakistanis would have been seriously annoyed,
the aircraft was even older in technology than
the Mirage 2000 (service entry in 1978) and all
the usual American strings attached.
Once twins had been ruled out, the only viable
choice was the Gripen, and as first export
customer we did get some work out of it - even
if Denel blew that later. And it has turned out
better than a lot of SAAF people expected -
combat radius a bit better than F1AZ, much
better than the Cheetah C; simple to support
(during WC 2010, pairs of Gripens were
accompanied by mechanics in a single Cessna
Caravan!), easy to work on and, for a fighter,
cheap to fly (various sources quote per hour
costs between one third and one half those of an
F-16.
The long-term dream - beyond funding to fly the
ones we have, would be to add a second squadron
(perhaps smaller, 12-16) of the future Gripen E
and F (two-seat): More powerful engine; bigger
wing with two extra weapons stations; and a full
cubic meter for fuel in the fuselage dead on the
CG. That would give us E/F Gripens for precision
strike/interdiction and C/D for air defence,
escort, et al.7cDca
#11 Simon Roche 2013-07-18 21:54
Thank-you Helmud Heitman for your second
contribution above, it is highly educational.
Also Appolus #9, good question, but I suspect
that the answer is almost open-ended; we could
talk forever about national budgetary
priorities, PER CAPITA(N.B.!) G.D.P., and so on.
#12 Helmoed Heitman 2013-07-19 15:04
Mburumba Appolus: Different reasons for
different countries: Chile, Denmark and Portugal
have small populations that are more productive
than we, with per capita GDPs of $ 15 700, $55
740 and $ 19 534 respectively compared to our $
8 400 or so; and so can afford to spend more on
defence. In addition Denmark has a very small
army, Portugal still relies on reserves left
over from when they had conscription (that will
change) and Chile has conscription which is much
cheaper than regular soldiers. Jordan and
Morocco are poorer than SA, but the governments
place more focus on true state functions rather
than the welfare state approach in South Africa,
freeing up funds for defence, and also receive
some US funding.
#13 Etienne Prinsloo 2013-07-20 19:43
@ Helmoed Heitman
I don't think the platform choice was ever the
issue in terms of competence and affordability.
I agree on the Rafaele which is an excellent
aircraft whose overall competence unfortunately
has not translated into large volume sales. The
problem however stems from the initial purchase
shrouded in a cloud of murky corruption and the
pathetic management of the aircraft's support
structure since then. A comprehensive, all
inclusive infrastructure ranging from ongoing
maintenance, rapid spare parts procurement,
excellent ongoing technical relations with the
manufacturer to pilot training as well as
maintenance of competency is a sine qua non for
fighter aircraft. This is just to mention the
very basic logistics. All the aforementioned is
sadly lacking; whether this is due to a lack of
insight, the political will or racially
motivated thinking I do not know. Clearly the
intricacies of fighter platform maintenance was
cleverly circumvented at the time of purchase
and we are now stuck with a fleet of Grippens
that are not being properly maintained and not
flown with a rapidly decaying skillset in terms
of maintenance and operation. Is there a
workable solution in the short to medium term
against the current reasoning of the political/
defence establishment? I honestly do not think
so. Sadly prior to purchase, these problems were
alluded to but ignored by the political
etablishment. Once again, the taxpayer is left
to pick up the pieces.
#14 Richard Young 2013-07-21 09:54
Some people in the SAAF projects world would
have preferred the DASA AT2000 because of the
discounts Mickey Worfel were offering on their
gorgeous Mercedes-Benzs.
Others preferred the BAE/Saab Gripen because of
the GBP105 million in covert commissions and
GBP24 million in overt commissions that they
were offering on the Gripen JAS39 and Hawk 100.
It's mainly about demand and supply.
#15 Richard Young 2013-07-21 09:58
I will do my best to convince Judge Seriti to
send back any equipment acquired unlawfully and
either get a full refund or at least the 5%
penalty as remedy in case of bribes.
In the patrol corvette case the penalty is 10%
as I think it is in the submarine case.
There may be a question of commission.
#16 Richard Young 2013-07-21 10:03
Why did the SAAF need to start acquiring 28
ALFAs in 1997 when it had just taken 38 Cheetah
Cs into service in the same year, with another
16 spare aircraft and a mountain of spare parts?
Many (or all) of those Cheetah Cs are now in the
service of the Ecuadorian Air Force.
#17 Richard Young 2013-07-21 11:32
Were the 26 Gripen JAS39s supplied with any
weapons in the 1999 SDP acquisition?
If so, which?
If not, why not?
Haal uit en wys.
With acknowledgement to Guy Martin and defenceWeb.
Flocks of headless,
featherless chickens coming home to root.
Is anything more need to be said?
Except one thing, what will Thabo and Alec have
to say about this on the stand?
Even about rationale and utilisation?
I must save some wonga to buy an airticket on
Kalula to watch that episode of the Lion,
Gorilla and Gadfly Show in Tswane.
Will they televise the show?
Surely a cure all for insomnia.